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Subject: Re: Newsgroup back! Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 20:04:47 -0700 From: "jmsatb5@aol.com"Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated On Aug 24, 1:56 pm, StarFur...@aol.com wrote: Much silliness. Against my better judgment, as the person for whose benefit this group was formed in the first place, let me chime in here for a moment. It's been said, repeatedly, that this group functions for all intents and purposes as a private party. Those who the group want to hang around are invited in to play; those who the group doesn't want to hang around, or who behave in ways obnoxious to the hosts and guests are not invited in to play. This keeps out the stalkers, the obsessed, the dysfunctional, the abusive, and the general, all-around jerks who get off on turning a group so toxic that nobody's left after a while but the person and some of his associates or collaborators. It's the slow poisoning of a group. This newsgroup has been along for a very long time, operating under the most onerous and difficult circumstances, and always honorably, the moderators always ready to give the benefit of the doubt repeatedly, despite often doubting the benefit. And every so often, some loudmouth breezes into town and tries to make the discussion all about himself, about how he thinks he should be treated...he shouts at the moderators to maintain standards that he himself shows no desire to meet, as though they were employees answerable to him...when in fact they are not answerable to anyone other than the quiet turning of their own considered conscience. You say you got dog piled. Well, yeah, when you crash a party and start behaving obnoxiously toward the guests and the hosts, you get dog-piled. Where in this is the surprise? Where the unfairness? You seem to feel you can act any way you want, and if anybody so much as says a word about your boorish and inappropriate behavior, it's *their* fault, *they're* being bad and unfair and censorious. Nonsense. The problem is you. You like being at the center of attention. You like twisting arguments around so that you look like the offended party when you are the one being offensive. You like making people upset so that when they *act* upset you can gleefully point out that they're being upset. You want the discussion to be about *you*, about how other people should live up to *your* standards (which are nonexistent) and justify why *you* should remain here before you "waste your time" in the company of such individuals. (In terms, I might add, that I find curiously familiar.) The people in this group have nothing to prove to you. The moderators have nothing to prove to you. They have worked for *years* to make and preserve this as a pleasant place for people to come and talk. You are the one who has to demonstrate that he is capable of doing the same. You are a guest in someone else's home. Act like it. Or frankly, get out. jms